Lord Kim Darroch: “Cyber Security Is About Educating the Corporate Sector”

Lord Kim Darroch, a renowned political speaker and former British ambassador to the United States of America, spoke to our sales executive, Mark Matthews, about the turbulent geopolitical landscape and the importance of cyber in national security. He has spent decades on the frontlines of national security crises and today, Kim discusses how politics has changed over his time in the civil service.

Q: How has politics changed since you first joined the Government?

Mark: “The world has changed a lot over the last three decades… How has politics evolved since you first started working for the government?”

Kim: “Quite a lot has changed. I mean, politics has become sharper-edged, it’s become less polite, less decorous. It’s become more adversarial I think, senior civil servants in the top positions now face much more public exposure than they used to.

“You’ve seen with the current government in the last couple of years, a number of very senior civil servants have been pushed to resign, out of sympathy with the Government’s policies and intentions. That didn’t happen 40 years ago; the single biggest change is in the media landscape.

“I was in the press office, in the foreign office, very early in my career back in the late 1970s- I’m that old! In those days, there was ITV and BBC and the national newspapers, that was it. Nowadays, you have a multiplicity of TV channels, you have these 24-hour news channels competing with one another and you have social media which also has massively changed the media landscape.

“So, the pressure now from the media is much more intense than it used to be. The news cycle is 24 hours, 7 days a week and the pressure that comes from [the media] for instant government reaction to almost any significant event, around the world… it’s really intense.

“Let me tell you, my experience is that having to respond or react instantly to some event somewhere before you fully understood what is going on with all those ramifications doesn’t make for good policy, it just makes things a lot more difficult.”

Q: Why is cyber such an important aspect of our national security defences?

Mark: “As technology continues to evolve, why is cyber such a crucial component of our national security defences?”

Kim: “I remember, as a National Security Advisor, going down to [the Government Communications Headquarters] in Cheltenham and being shown on a screen just how many cyber-attacks there were on UK communications, over the course of a few hours.

“It was extraordinary and shocking to see just how much of this was going on! So, the answer is that cyber was important then and it’s even more important now; the Government has put a lot more resources into our cyber defences. This, in the first place, is about protecting government and military communications.

“It’s also about educating our businesses, our corporate sector on how to protect their confidential information because for them, information about new technology and new products is extraordinarily valuable.

“They need to defend themselves because there are certainly attacks going on all the time. So, cyber is now a very, very big part of the national security scene for us and other countries around the world.”

Q: What are your reflections on our current geopolitical landscape?

Mark: “Leadership has taken different forms over the years, what do you think about the geopolitical climate right now?”

Kim: “I have to be frank here and say that I don’t think the geopolitical landscape is in a good place. I think the world is as uncertain, as troubled and as dangerous as it has been at any point in the last 40 years.

“We now have war in Europe at a scale not seen since the Second World War, we have massive economic uncertainty around the world. We have the nightmare of climate change looming over us and so far, the global response to that is inadequate.

“I think we’re also seeing the stalling of globalisation. Globalisation is, in some people’s minds, a bad thing, but the reality is, it has brought unprecedented global prosperity over the last few decades. The combination of all the factors that I’ve mentioned means that it is now, if not completely, stalled. It is slowing down.

“You’re going to have to get used to a world in which economies aren’t growing at the rate they used to, in which you have people like Vladimir Putin invading neighbours with no reason other than increasing their own territory. It’s not something we’ve seen since the Second World War, that’s not to mention problems like international terrorism.

“So, I think it’s quite a bleak landscape. I think it needs really good leadership around the world to tackle these problems and these challenges – I’m not sure we’ve got that. Of course, I would say this as a former diplomat, but diplomacy is more important than ever.”

Q: What is needed for a good negotiation?

Mark: “You’ve been in the room for some of the most important global conversations; what are some requirements for a successful negotiation?”

Kim: “The obvious one is to know your own brief, to know clearly what your objectives are, what’s acceptable and what’s not acceptable, to have a clear negotiating plan so you don’t put out your bottom line in the first few minutes.

“To have an idea how you’re going to get to where you intend to go but clarity about your objectives is the single most important thing in all of that.

“The other thing that you really need to know is that you need to understand what you’re negotiating partner or opponent’s objectives and interests are, what they need, what they’re looking for. Try and have the best possible estimate of their bottom line and understand the politics, economics or the security concerns that has pushed them towards wanting these things.

“In other words, what are the underlying reasons for their negotiating objectives? Sometimes you can find ways through, which may not be exactly what they’re looking for, but still meet their bottom-line objectives. It’s both about knowing what you want but also understanding what the other side wants.”

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